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Sgian Dubh

Discussion in 'Fixed Blades' started by John Noon, Apr 9, 2016.

  1. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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    Something I have been tinkering with is a Scottish Sgian Dubh for a friend.

    Blade is AISI 1084 3/16" thick. Heat treated with a high temperature silicon on the blade to create a pattern. Lightly sanded the blade after quenching then popped in the furnace for tempering.

    The color variation is from the exposure to oxygen, variation is from well sanded portion with 400 grit to only steel wool buffed. Colors are from blue to purple and almost to black in some areas depending on the angle of light. Just hoping the color will hang around, a few more experiments are in order and testing to see how well the surface holds up.

    Thinking the cutting edge will get a light acid bath then cold blued and buffed. It should blend in nicely afterwards.

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  2. Icho-

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    Can't wait to see it done.
     
  3. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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    At the rate I am going... torn between old as dirt hand made look and high end rich dude in a kilt with gold leaf and wire in the handle. Have Ebony sitting on the bench and picked up a 5 Lb maple burl to make scales, have copper sheet, brass sheet and stainless.

    Far to many choices and will research middle class versions and not just the high end ones that have been in collections for a few hundred years to help nail down the design.
     
  4. Icho-

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    I really like traditional knives from around the world and I personally would stick with the way the very original ones were. I have looked into the Sgian Dubhs and the dirk along with other country and regions knife styles and some day hope to have a small collection from as many different cultures as possible.
     
  5. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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    Have been looking at old versions and it looks like I will have to learn how to carve, they were some pretty fancy knives.
     
  6. dancom

    dancom Dust Maker Best Shop Tool

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    Looks like a shark
     
  7. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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    Flipped over it looks like a pac-man taking a bite out of a elephants trunk.
     
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    Going to watch the progress.of this one for sure!
     
  9. PeterP

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    Love historical stuff....:beer:
     
  10. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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    Did a little more research today, should do it before starting ideally. Wood for handles are African Black wood and Oak Bog wood, the Oak is grey to black.

    Got me thinking the Ebony I have is a bear to carve and the Oak burl if stained lightly with black would still show the pattern but be much easier to carve or shape.
    With the stabilizing stuff I have coming in I may have to get some black dye and see how it looks. Now off to see if cactus juice has a product for coloring it or just order Alumilite and an assortment of color dyes
     
  11. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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    Alumilite dyes are supposed to work in Cactus Juice. Some suggest up to four times what you think will look good o_O well we shall see. still 8 more days before the stabilizing stuff gets here so another project on hold temporarily.
     
  12. PeterP

    PeterP Active Member

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    Go easy on the dye....I got allumilite dye and always only put in one or 2 drops regardless of the amount of resin.
     
  13. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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    Good to know,nthank you
     
  14. Jim T

    Jim T Active Member

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    I really like the grind you put on that blade, John. Looking forward to seeing the end result.
     
  15. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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    Talking with the future owner and handle is being finalized. Ebony / Oak burl dye black / Ebony, still working out the copper spacers and sheath tip.
    Handle will have a carving of his family crest so I have to get the carving part practiced before going whole hog on the knife.

    What a process, just spent a bunch of money for dye. well not only dye seeing as I was there and they had glow powder, metallic powder and molding stuff oh look alumilite yea that too.
     
  16. krash-bang

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    Looking good John! Can't wait to see the finished knife.
     
  17. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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    A little work in progress shot, the new stabilizing equipment works like a charm and the maple polishes up beautifully. Thinking I may start another handle with black dye since this seems just so light or try old fashioned black shoe polish.

    still needs the Ebony Pommel, carving of owners crest and sheath made. A little rough right now but I needed a break from grinding.

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  18. Icho-

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    Lookin good. Can't wait to see it finished.
     
  19. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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    At long last I have figured out how and where the crest will be mounted as well as a multi piece sheath combining wood and leather. Stone or jewel for the hilt is still up in the air.
    so progress to date.
    Oh yea research showed bog Oak as the wood of choice and in Scotland that is a little more common than here. Got thinking about it and decided a common hardwood is maple in Canada so Maple burl it was, stabilized but not dyed. Still working on how to darken but not loose all of the detail of the wood.
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    I will be glad when the new camera is back from warranty work, cheap old digital never works worth crap anymore.
     
  20. Icho-

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    Looks great. Very nice piece of maple burl.
     

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